{"id":74813,"date":"2026-10-15T11:54:30","date_gmt":"2026-10-15T09:54:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/?p=74813"},"modified":"2026-10-15T11:54:34","modified_gmt":"2026-10-15T09:54:34","slug":"christs-work-in-the-interstice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/en\/christs-work-in-the-interstice\/","title":{"rendered":"Christ\u2019s Work in the Interstice"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>In the color green, light and darkness meet and find a living equilibrium. Kees Veenman\u2019s experiments with color invite us to explore this mysterious interplay of balance.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>At the end of May, Christine Gruwez\u2019s new book <em>De Logos naderen<\/em> (Approaching the Logos) was published in Belgium.<span id='easy-footnote-1-74813' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/en\/christs-work-in-the-interstice\/#easy-footnote-bottom-1-74813' title='Christine Gruwez, &lt;em&gt;De Logos naderen,&lt;\/em&gt; Adventum, 2026. This book was actually my idea, because I know so many people who appreciate her articles!'><sup>1<\/sup><\/a><\/span> It contains eleven of her articles, several of which are previously unpublished. In the article \u201cThe Grail Between East and West,\u201d she draws on the work of Rudolf Steiner. He described the encounter between the Western Grail stream\u2014the life spirit of Christ,<span id='easy-footnote-2-74813' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/en\/christs-work-in-the-interstice\/#easy-footnote-bottom-2-74813' title='According to Rudolf Steiner, the life spirit is the etheric body transformed by the \u201cI.\u201d At the moment, human beings have only a seed of their life spirit, the development of which lies in the distant future. But higher beings, starting with the archangels, already possess a life spirit.'><sup>2<\/sup><\/a><\/span> which he had left behind on Earth before his incarnation, and the Eastern Grail stream\u2014the Christ who continued to live in the hearts of people after his death and resurrection.<span id='easy-footnote-3-74813' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/en\/christs-work-in-the-interstice\/#easy-footnote-bottom-3-74813' title='Rudolf Steiner, &lt;em&gt;Karmic Relationships 8, Esoteric Studies,&lt;\/em&gt; GA 240, Lecture of August 27, 2015, SteinerBooks.'><sup>3<\/sup><\/a><\/span> Christine Gruwez goes on to write that from the \u201cencounter of Christ with himself,\u201d with the heart as an interstice, a completely new, future-oriented activity will arise. In the heart, the life-giving and resurrection activities of Christ converge.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why is an \u201cinterstice\u201d\u2014an in-between space\u2014a suitable setting for the working of Christ? And why is the heart an interstice? I will address the latter question first. In thought, we distance ourselves from the world; in the will, we act within the world. Feeling lies in between. When we feel, we are close\u2014we are right in the thick of it. A feeling of compassion arises in our heart, not in our mind. To allow this, we must step back a little to create space. We say of someone with great empathy that they have their heart in the right place. A remarkable expression, for that is precisely what the heart is for: to empathize with others, to feel love. The heart acts as an interstice because it is a place where two people can come together. It is also within the heart that the human etheric stream\u2014rising from the blood as it flows from the heart to the brain\u2014can unite with the etheric stream of Christ\u2019s blood.<span id='easy-footnote-4-74813' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/en\/christs-work-in-the-interstice\/#easy-footnote-bottom-4-74813' title='Rudolf Steiner, \u201cThe Etherization of the Blood\u201d, in &lt;em&gt;The Reappearance of Christ in the Etheric&lt;\/em&gt;, GA 130, Lecture of October 1, 1911.'><sup>4<\/sup><\/a><\/span> Christ needs an in-between space to be effective. \u201cFor wherever two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.\u201d<span id='easy-footnote-5-74813' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/en\/christs-work-in-the-interstice\/#easy-footnote-bottom-5-74813' title='Matthew 18:20.'><sup>5<\/sup><\/a><\/span> An interstice is a space where two beings can meet. In a Christian context, this encounter is shaped by freedom and love\u2014qualities that are mutually dependent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Green as an Interstice<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>While I was doing my research on color, I came to the realization that green is the color behind which the power of Christ is hidden. In brief, when I was 37 a new experiment led me to a profound spiritual experience. I perceived all colors as healing beings, with Christ as the center and leader of this circle of colors. I also understood that Christ had bestowed a new future perspective upon each color for the further development of humanity. My ongoing research showed that green is the color of restraint and balance (more on that later.) It was not until I was 55 that I discovered what this future perspective given to the colors by Christ entails. For the color green, it is the creative power of the Word, the <em>Logos<\/em>. From this, it became clear to me that although Christ has given all colors a new perspective, He himself is specifically connected to green: Christ is the being behind the color green. Later, I found this confirmed by Steiner.<span id='easy-footnote-6-74813' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/en\/christs-work-in-the-interstice\/#easy-footnote-bottom-6-74813' title='Rudolf Steiner, &lt;em&gt;Farbenerkenntnis\u2014Erg\u00e4nzungen zu dem Band Das Wesen der Farben&lt;\/em&gt; [Color Perception, Supplements to the volume The Nature of Colours,] GA 291a, Rudolf Steiner Verlag, 1990, p. 156. Here Rudolf Steiner answered in the affirmative when asked whether the seven colors of the color spectrum express the character of the seven Elohim. When asked where Christ could then be found in the color spectrum, he replied: He is behind the green.'><sup>6<\/sup><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, if Christ stands behind green, then an important question is whether green also possesses the quality of an interstice, like the heart. Can an encounter between two forces or beings take place in the color green like it does in the heart? To investigate this, I would like to present three color experiments.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1500\" height=\"750\" src=\"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_13-1500x750.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-74373\" style=\"width:450px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_13-1500x750.jpg 1500w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_13-300x150.jpg 300w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_13-770x385.jpg 770w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_13-1536x768.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_13-585x293.jpg 585w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_13-1170x585.jpg 1170w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_13.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1500px) 100vw, 1500px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Fig. 1: Spectrum of a triangular light source<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p>In the collected works of British color specialist and Goethe expert Michael Wilson, published in 2018, there is an interesting problem presented in the foreword.<span id='easy-footnote-7-74813' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/en\/christs-work-in-the-interstice\/#easy-footnote-bottom-7-74813' title='Michael Wilson, &lt;em&gt;What is Color? The Collected Works,&lt;\/em&gt; Ph\u00e4nomenologie in der Naturwissenschaft, Vol. 12, Logos-Verlag, Berlin 2018.'><sup>7<\/sup><\/a><\/span> Wilson and his philosopher friend Jonathan Westphal had been discussing the question of how green is formed when light passes through a prism. To illustrate what they meant and why this is curious, let\u2019s consider the following experiment (Figure 1).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We shine the light from a wedge-shaped light source (in a dark background) onto a screen. The image on the left appears. Then we place a prism in front of the same light source. The image on the right now appears on the screen. Goethe said of this experiment that the cyan and yellow \u201cmeet\u201d to form the green.<span id='easy-footnote-8-74813' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/en\/christs-work-in-the-interstice\/#easy-footnote-bottom-8-74813' title='Johann Wolfgang Goethe, &lt;em&gt;Farbenlehre, Zweite Abteilung-Physische Farben &lt;\/em&gt;[&lt;em&gt;Theory of Colors, Part Two: Physical Colors&lt;\/em&gt;], \u00a7 216, Verlag freies Geistesleben, Stuttgart, 1979. \u201cNach und nach k\u00f6nnen in dem ersten Falle Gelb und Blau dergestalt \u00fcbereinander greifen, dass diese beiden Farben v\u00f6llig zu Gr\u00fcn verbinden.\u201c [\u201dGradually, in the first case, yellow and blue can overlap in such a way that these two colors meet to form green.\u201d Translation by author.]'><sup>8<\/sup><\/a><\/span> This seems perfectly logical; after all, mixing blue and yellow paint produces green. But in this case, we are \u201cmixing\u201d colored light and if you mix yellow and blue light, you get white! So how does the green emerge in the midst of this experiment? \u201cHad Goethe been mistaken?\u201d Westphal asked. \u201cWell,\u201d Wilson responded, \u201cyou can see the green appearing. It happens! You can see that the green appears where the yellow and the blue darken one another.\u201d That is, where yellow and blue disappear. The facts speak for themselves!<span id='easy-footnote-9-74813' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/en\/christs-work-in-the-interstice\/#easy-footnote-bottom-9-74813' title='In the original German version of this article, I wrote that Wilson answers: \u201cYou can see that the green appears where the yellow and the blue disappear.\u201d However, Wilson actually said \u201c\u2026 where yellow and blue darken one another.\u201d But I prefer disappear. That is a fact and not an interpretation: the yellow and blue disappear and the green arises.'><sup>9<\/sup><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s an interesting puzzle that warrants further investigation. Let\u2019s consider a second experiment. (Figure 2) We project the image of the spectrum from Figure 1 through a second prism. (This can be done by projecting the original spectrum onto frosted glass, masking a portion with black paper, and photographing it from behind through the second prism.) The image on the right appears.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to Goethe, in every prismatic experiment colors arise from the interaction of light and darkness. We can see in the spectrum from Figure 1, that red exhibits a compressed form and violet a radiant one. From this, I conclude that red arises where light shines into darkness and is not admitted by the darkness, resulting in a compression between light and darkness. In the arising of violet, the opposite is true: the light is absorbed by darkness, resulting in a radiance of light within the darkness. Goethe therefore referred to the formation of red and violet as active and passive, respectively.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1500\" height=\"674\" src=\"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_14-1500x674.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-74375\" style=\"width:450px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_14-1500x674.jpg 1500w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_14-300x135.jpg 300w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_14-770x346.jpg 770w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_14-1536x690.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_14-scaled.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1500px) 100vw, 1500px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Fig. 2: Photo on the right, second spectrum from photo taken of first spectrum and projected through a prism<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p>Figure 2 shows that when the red light from the left passes through the second prism (from p to q,) it does not develop into violet on the right. Similarly, violet light from the left does not develop into red on the right. Both colors had already developed in a completely one-sided manner during their initial formation (Figure 1). As a result, red can only continue to develop actively through compression, to the left and not to the right. With violet, the opposite is true. Green does not seem to develop either actively or passively. It holds back and does not specialize. In the green formed in Figure 1, the light neither compresses at the darkness nor radiates into it. We see the same with the green in Figure 2, when the original green is deflected by the second prism. The relationship between light and darkness remains in balance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The situation is different with yellow and cyan. To illustrate this clearly, I have taken a detail from Figure 2 to show the further development of both colors alongside the green. Yellow has already developed somewhat in an active direction and, after passing through the second prism, is capable of continuing to develop actively to the left into the compressed red. However, yellow cannot develop passively to the right into violet; it is already too active for that. And this is precisely where green emerges. The same applies to cyan. Cyan is already a passive color and can continue to develop to the right toward a radiant violet. However, cyan cannot actively develop into red. And here, too, is where green emerges.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1365\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_12-1365x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-74371\" style=\"width:350px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_12-1365x1024.jpg 1365w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_12-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_12-770x578.jpg 770w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_12-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_12.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1365px) 100vw, 1365px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Fig. 3: Detail from the photo in Fig. 2<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p>How should this appearance of green be interpreted? Green expresses that the development in both yellow and cyan is held back! And what about the appearance of green in the middle of the first experiment, which so perplexed Westphal? This can be seen as the combination of the restrained developments of yellow and cyan into green: neither develops in a direction that is simply no longer possible. Viewed in this way, Goethe\u2019s intuition to speak of \u201cmeeting\u201d rather than \u201cmixing\u201d was accurate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The restraint that exists solely in green does not necessarily make green an interstice. What forces, then, come together in green like they do in the heart? These experiments demonstrate that the forces of light and darkness meet in perfect balance within green. Goethe also notes that every color arises from an interaction of light and darkness, but not with as much restraint and balance as in green. Think of red and violet with their gestures. It is like with people: only when one person creates space for another can a dialogue arise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Christ in the Green Foliage<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>We can take this inquiry a step further. Does the green of nature also possess the character of an interstice? Do we encounter Christ in green foliage? This question leads us to a fascinating observation. If we examine the transition of yellow and cyan to green in the spectrum (Figure 3,) it is striking that this transition is very even and gentle for both colors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The situation is quite different with the transition from the yellow of butter to the yellow of a lemon, or from the yellow of a buttercup to a blooming rapeseed. Especially when the rapeseed is nearly past its bloom, the yellow seems exaggerated, almost too intense\u2014as if the rapeseed lacked restraint. (Figure 4)<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1500\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_15-1500x480.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-74377\" style=\"width:450px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_15-1500x480.jpg 1500w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_15-300x96.jpg 300w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_15-770x246.jpg 770w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_15-1536x492.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/G2026_38_Web_15-scaled.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1500px) 100vw, 1500px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Fig. 4: Turquoise, beech leaf, rapeseed flowers<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p>Something similar happens with a blue-green stone like turquoise. It glows so brightly, almost like neon! And then there\u2019s the beautiful spring green of a freshly sprouted beech leaf. You have to see it in person; a photo doesn\u2019t do the beech leaf justice. If you hold the leaf up to the sunlight and the spring green shines through, you\u2019ll be enveloped by a sense of perfection. A space in between.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In anthroposophical painting, natural pigments such as plant dyes, are sometimes used. This seems important to me. A color that is freshly created or still close to its source carries the qualities of the being active behind that color more strongly. In color bath therapy in Gouda, the Netherlands, the bath was illuminated with green colored light using plant dyes.<span id='easy-footnote-10-74813' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/en\/christs-work-in-the-interstice\/#easy-footnote-bottom-10-74813' title='Kees Veenman, &lt;em&gt;Color Meditation&lt;\/em&gt;, Chapter 8, Lindisfarne Books, New York 2024.'><sup>10<\/sup><\/a><\/span> From the research I conducted there together with the physician Georg Maissan, it became clear that the best results were achieved using green plant pigments. The \u201cgreen bath\u201d was effective in three ways: patients felt better in their bodies, had more control over their thoughts, and slept better. It is the power of balance that dwells in the space between.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Translation <\/strong>Laura Liska<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the color green, light and darkness meet and find a living equilibrium. Kees Veenman\u2019s experiments with color invite us to explore this mysterious interplay of balance. At the end of May, Christine Gruwez\u2019s new book De Logos naderen (Approaching the Logos) was published in Belgium. It contains eleven of her articles, several of which are previously unpublished. In the article \u201cThe Grail Between East and West,\u201d she draws on the work of Rudolf Steiner. 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