{"id":68420,"date":"2025-10-22T20:46:10","date_gmt":"2025-10-22T18:46:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/?p=68420"},"modified":"2025-10-24T14:49:48","modified_gmt":"2025-10-24T12:49:48","slug":"greening-the-desert-between-vision-and-foresight","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/en\/greening-the-desert-between-vision-and-foresight\/","title":{"rendered":"Greening the Desert: Between Vision and Foresight"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>The Goetheanum warmly invites everyone to \u201cGreening the Desert\u201d on October 29, 2025. The desert is and has life that must be respected: this theme day will bring together practice and reflection. Visitors can experience projects from the Sahara region up close and learn how agriculture, culture, economics, and politics are intertwined. \u201cGreening the Desert\u201d is a collaboration between Culturescapes 2025 Sahara, the Section for Agriculture, Sekem, and Agroecology Works. Anna Storchenegger spoke with Ueli Hurter, co-leader of the Agriculture Section, and Jurriaan Cooiman, founder and director of Culturescapes.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Anna Storchenegger: The title of the theme day, \u201cGreening the Desert,\u201d sounds optimistic, almost like a promise. What is the title meant to convey? Is it really possible for deserts to become fertile land again?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ueli Hurter: <\/strong>I would say quite simply: yes, it\u2019s possible. We have very concrete examples of this. The most important and best-known is Sekem, the anthroposophical initiative in Egypt, whose representatives Helmy Abouleish and Buthaina Elhoseiny will be guests at the theme day. At first, yes, there was nothing there but desert, sand, and heat\u2014no life. And today, after almost five decades, we see fertile land. Not only in an ecological, agricultural sense\u2014that is, with growing plants\u2014but also in a comprehensive social and cultural sense. In 1977, the founder, Ibrahim Abouleish, had a vision of turning the desert into a place of life. But he didn\u2019t realize this vision alone; many people embarked on this path with him. Today, it\u2019s an incredible experience to be there: you see trees, plants, animals, people, schools, a clinic, companies producing food, textiles, and medicines. Life is incredibly more dense, rich, and much more colorful than one could ever have expected. There is a special power that comes from this transformation. One could even say that if it is possible to create a place where life flourishes in an environment as hostile to life as the desert, that is a cultural achievement that is perhaps even greater than what we experience in Central Europe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>So you\u2019re not just talking about agriculture in the narrow sense but about a whole way of life?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>UH: <\/strong>Exactly. When you\u2019re in Sekem, you sense that it\u2019s not just about fields and harvests. It\u2019s about people\u2014people being able to live together, children receiving an education\u2014and it\u2019s about art, music, and spirituality all having a place. Biodynamic agriculture is the foundation, but much, much more comes out of that. That is the spirit behind \u201cGreening the Desert.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hazoua is another fascinating example. It is located in Tunisia, right on the border of Algeria, on the edge of the Sahara. When you drive there, you experience a completely desert-like location\u2014stones, rocks, dust, no water. But Hazoua itself is an oasis. The main product is dates\u2014tall palm trees typical of oases. Thanks to the initiative of a man from Switzerland, they began to cultivate these palm trees a few years ago according to biodynamic principles. Today, the Demeter dates are processed and exported to Switzerland. The exciting thing about this is that it\u2019s not an \u201cartificial\u201d project but one that lives in direct connection with the community. Sadok Saidi has made a decisive contribution to this development, and his son, Salah Saidi, will present the Hazoua oasis project at the Goetheanum.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_10-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-68296\" style=\"width:367px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_10-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_10-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_10-200x200.jpg 200w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_10-770x770.jpg 770w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_10-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_10-70x70.jpg 70w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_10-293x293.jpg 293w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_10-390x390.jpg 390w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_10-585x585.jpg 585w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_10-900x900.jpg 900w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_10.jpg 1500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Jurriaan Cooiman<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>Jurriaan, what is your connection to the desert and the title \u201cGreening the Desert\u201d?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Jurriaan Cooiman: <\/strong>I\u2019ve traveled through the Sahara several times, from multiple directions\u2014from Egypt to Morocco to Algeria to sub-Saharan Africa. To answer the first part of your question: The Sahara is described as \u201cdegraded land,\u201d but that contradicts what has existed there for millennia\u2014life. Of course, it\u2019s not Central European life with intensive agriculture, but there are nomadic peoples, animals, and diversity. We tend to see things only from our own perspective. But there\u2019s also a meta-level. In 2021, we addressed the topic of the Amazon as part of Culturescapes. There\u2019s an amazing connection between these two places: clouds of Sahara dust travel at high altitudes to South America, where they rain down and bring minerals and trace elements that make the Amazon fertile. Millions of tons of Saharan dust are transported in this way every year. This is a mega ecological cycle that connects two continents. This biological basis shows us that interventions in ecosystems\u2014whether geoengineering or the use of water reserves\u2014can always have negative repercussions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another example is the gigantic water reserves beneath the Sahara. The quantities are unimaginable, but they are finite. Pumping them up is a Faustian endeavor. I remember my visit to the Sekem farm in Egypt: an impressive reclamation of the desert by making water reserves accessible. But here, too, the question arises: which sources do we use, for what purpose, and who decides?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>UH: <\/strong>When we talk about greening the desert, we\u2019re not talking about fighting with the desert. The desert is suprahuman, magnificent, and it demands our respect. It\u2019s about respectfully considering how vegetation can be restored in certain areas. In doing so, we must distinguish between Faustian endeavors like the massive pumping of water and more feasible, smaller prototypes. I remember that in the Sahel, where there are only a few months of rain per year, overgrazing by livestock actually led to desertification. Not only did the vegetation disappear, but so did the rain itself. This shows that rain is closely linked to vegetation. As utopian as it sounds, such processes can be influenced.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JC: <\/strong>But we have to be careful: the Sahara is huge. To say \u201cwe want it to rain there\u201d sounds like a delusion of grandeur. Vegetation can promote rainfall, yes, but we\u2019re talking about planetary dimensions here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Climate change now affects the entire world. Arid zones are increasing. Could one say that projects such as Sekem demonstrate solutions to global challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>UH: <\/strong>Yes, but it is important to realize that without trees, almost nothing is possible. That\u2019s why we invited agroforestry expert Roland Frutig to the theme day. The first thing you have to do in dry areas is to tap into water sources\u2014through deep drilling and irrigation systems. The second thing is to plant trees. Fast-growing trees such as casuarinas are particularly valuable because they grow tall in just a few years, provide shade, and block the wind. This creates a microclimate in which plants can thrive. Agroforestry goes one step further. It shows how to combine different layers of plants\u2014ground cover at the bottom, then shrubs, then trees. This creates a kind of \u201cmulti-story construction.\u201d It\u2019s very stable, resilient to heat and drought, and brings more diversity to yields. For farmers, this also means greater security and higher incomes. In traditional biodynamics, trees are mainly considered to be a source of shade. By working with agroforestry experts like Frutig, we\u2019re learning to organize this much more systematically. This is creating an exciting connection that\u2019s interesting for global challenges related to climate change.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JC: <\/strong>Visiting the Sekem Initiative was an eye-opener for me\u2014not only because agriculture is being developed in the desert but also because a cultural life is emerging. This inspired us to seek cooperation with the Goetheanum and to organize the \u201cGreening the Desert\u201d theme day. Still, we can\u2019t forget that, ultimately, our problem is about consumption. We in the West consume two and a half to three planets that we don\u2019t have. The Global South consumes perhaps one-third of a planet. This inequality is massive. If the South were to consume as much as we do, the Earth would be completely overwhelmed.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_11-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-68298\" style=\"width:387px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_11-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_11-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_11-200x200.jpg 200w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_11-770x770.jpg 770w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_11-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_11-70x70.jpg 70w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_11-293x293.jpg 293w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_11-390x390.jpg 390w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_11-585x585.jpg 585w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_11-900x900.jpg 900w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_11.jpg 1500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Ueli Hurter<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>Fair value chains offer the opportunity to counteract this inequality, at least to some extent. Alexander Batran from Weleda will give a presentation on this topic during the theme day. To what extent is the issue of fair value chains decisive?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>UH: <\/strong>It\u2019s absolutely central. In \u201cnormal\u201d agriculture, we have anonymous value chains: the farmer sells to a middleman, who sells to the next middleman, and eventually the product ends up in the supermarket. The consumer has no idea where it comes from. In companies such as Weleda, it\u2019s different. Direct, long-term partnerships are formed between producers and buyers. One example is the rose growers in Morocco. Weleda doesn\u2019t just buy their roses; it supports their entire livelihood: childcare during the harvest, pre-financing, and stable prices, even in bad years. This creates trust and stability. In this way, agriculture becomes not only an economic relationship but also a social and cultural one.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>So, this event isn\u2019t only about agriculture. It\u2019s also about human dignity. Two of the guests are human rights activists: Asria Mohamed from Western Sahara and Taleb Brahim, an agronomist setting up agricultural projects for self-sufficiency in the Sahrawi refugee camps. To what extent are agricultural issues also human rights issues?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JC: <\/strong>Western Sahara has been occupied by Morocco for fifty years. Many Sahrawis live in Algerian camps, completely dependent on international aid. Now they have a desire to grow vegetables themselves. This is more than just nutrition: it means building a home instead of just hoping to return one day.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Asria Mohamed developed a project with women for the Swiss biennial Culturescapes: the <em>Jaimitna<\/em>, a tall tent where women\u2019s textiles are exhibited. These textiles tell stories of the women themselves. During the theme day, the tent will be on display at the Goetheanum and, leading up to the event, at Markthalle in Basel. Visitors can read and hear the women\u2019s stories by scanning QR codes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>UH: <\/strong>Refugee camps are extremely precarious situations. The fact that small roots are beginning to grow there gives people social stability again. It\u2019s hardly possible to be a human being without stability, unless you live a truly nomadic life. So, I\u2019m very much looking forward to Taleb Brahim, who will be presenting on this theme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This reminds me of a recent experience I had. I was at the World Goetheanum Forum in Sekem. They were holding a ceremony for farmers receiving their CO\u2082 certificates\u2014a small but deeply touching gesture that showed that a development community is emerging there. In the afternoon, there were programs for women. A colleague from South Korea, Nana, brought women onto the stage. You could see something awakening in them. Tradition always has two sides: things worth preserving and things that are oppressive. Through new impulses, a dialogue begins. With impetus and inspiration, something really new can emerge. I believe this is what\u2019s crucial. We, as the \u201cglobal North,\u201d must not act like colonizers with all our \u201cgoodwill,\u201d but rather help to create something new in genuine cooperation. Humanity cannot be imported; it must be born locally.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JC: <\/strong>You tried to build a bridge. I noticed that. Thank you. But it\u2019s also clear that we come from different sides. And that\u2019s a good thing. I still see a lot of colonizing behavior, even in projects like Sekem. Thousands of farmers are participating and are enthusiastic, while, at the same time, there are critical voices in Cairo. This ambivalence is part of the work.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1365\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_9-1365x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-68301\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_9-1365x1024.jpg 1365w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_9-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_9-770x578.jpg 770w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_9-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/dasgoetheanum.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/G2025_42_Web_9.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1365px) 100vw, 1365px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>Why should people come to this theme day at the Goetheanum?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>JC: <\/strong>For me, the topics we\u2019ve just discussed raise central questions of our time. Can we manage to engage in dialogue with one another, remain in communication, and find ways to change our behavior, develop empathy, and raise awareness? Ultimately, only life itself will show how this bears fruit. Planning alone is not enough. We can probably only exert very limited control. Rather, change comes about when it\u2019s not imposed simply by rational decision but when it arises out of an inner warmth, from genuine empathy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>UH: <\/strong>I\u2019d like to emphasize that this is an opportunity for the Goetheanum itself. Perhaps we do still have a tendency to behave in a patronizing or know-it-all manner, not only toward the Global South but also toward the \u201cNorth.\u201d Unfortunately, this attitude can still be attached to anthroposophists. We could learn to better bring about the empathetic gesture you just mentioned, Jurriaan: not to seek the solution but rather to enter into the experience itself. It\u2019s not a matter of providing immediate answers. The solutions are often already there. We originally wanted to combine a call to action with the theme day, but we deliberately decided against it. Instead, we want to open up a space for experience\u2014for the head, heart, and hands\u2014a terrain that can be explored culturally, intellectually, and practically. We don\u2019t have fixed goals, but we hope that bringing all these different people together can become a catalyst for greening the desert.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Event<\/strong><br>\u201cGreening the Desert\u201d Theme Day at the Goetheanum (English\/German)<br>October 29, 2025, 10 a.m.\u20134 p.m.<br><strong>More <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sektion-landwirtschaft.org\/en\/sv\/greening-the-desert-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Goetheanum Section for Agriculture<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Translation <\/strong>Joshua Kelberman<br><strong>Images <\/strong>Field workers in a field of basil. Photos: Samuel Leon Knaus<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Goetheanum warmly invites everyone to \u201cGreening the Desert\u201d on October 29, 2025. The desert is and has life that must be respected: this theme day will bring together practice and reflection. 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